Saturday, 31 March 2007

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I read in some blogs and some Libyan websites that Allibiya FM radio station has closed down for a while and now that it has restarted under a new name, Allibiya, there has been some talk about the rift between the modernists and the hardliners who it seems have won at the end, what I found really ridiculous is that the hardliners objected to the letters FM that accompany the name of the radio station because they are English letters and not Arabic! so the new name does not have the English letters but what it doesn't have is the Arabic alternative to FM and that is for a simple reason, there is no alternative. Some big suits that lack a lot of education keep interfering with everything to the point of being completely ridiculous, I mean only in Libya they banned the words Television, Radio, Cinema and now FM, they used ridiculous alternatives such as جهاز الاذاعة المرئية (Visual Broadcasting Machine for TV), جهاز الاذاعة المسموعة (Audio Broadcasting Machine for Radio) and خيالة (meaning Cinema) and God knows what for FM!!, these were inventions that were invented by Europeans or western people, their names have become a Trade Mark and are used world wide, its in the same way that the English language uses many Arabic words for things that were invented by Arabs and rightly so. For these hardliners big suits I suggest they invent new things and then and only then they can call it any Arabic name they want, I mean who uses these Arabic alternative names? no one but Libyan TV and press, imagine the money wasted now just to change the name of the Radio station. I would understand their point if for examples they banned shops from using English names that do not make sense as I have seen in Egypt, where I saw Take Away restaurant that have the words Take Away written in Arabic! (تك أوي) another shop was Happy Family in Arabic letters! (هابي فاميلي) this is quite ridiculous and meaningless but to try to change what has become normal and has no alternative is not acceptable and is a waste of time and money.
There is a Libyan saying, من ليبيا يأتي الجديد , meaning: from Libya comes everything new, well sometimes I feel it should be changed to, من ليبيا يأتي القطاف الزايد , meaning: from Libya comes a lot of nonsense.


Ema said...

من ليبيا يأتي القطاف الزايد
loooooooooooool @this.

yeah they think that with these actions they will stop globaization DUH!!

DaMoon said...

t7b tafhim edookh!!!

mani said...


Ugh this is just so silly.. But whats the fuss about if it is now legal in Libya by decree to use English and Latin letters and words alongside arabic for business trademarks???? (Article 3, Decision No#3, for year 1375 A.P.D '2007').

Anglo. they arent even big suits.. just big jrood lol.. they dont agree with suits remember.. tut tut..

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كمونه - مؤتمر شعبى محلى -لجنه شعبيه-شعبيه-اللجنه الشعبيه العامة- امين المؤتمر الشعبى الاساسى
if we send these words to سيبويه
who is the best Arabic language specialist, i believe he will not understand any thing.
BTW من ليبيا ياتى الجديد
it's old saying said from more than 3000 year by guy called herodit and he is known by father of the histroy, it seems libya like القطاف الزايد
SINCE their exist on this earth

AngloLibyan said...

isnt that funny ya Ema? :o)
I wish they would deal with more important problems of which there are plenty.

you said it, Damoon :oz

i didnt know they issued a law about this, mani, but it wont be the first time that a law was broken.

brave heart, I didnt know about the history of that saying من ليبيا ياتى الجديد, this was very interesting to know, thank you.

if you sent those words you mentioned, to سيبويه, I think he would have committed suicide :o)

Safia speaks said...

Actually, words like television, radio or mobile telephones are certainly NOT English!
They are ancient greek.

And radio is an Italian invention, TV a German invention...and telephone an American one - but only because Scottish-born Canadian Graham Bell beat Italian born American Anthony Meucci to the patents´ registrar office in 1876.

Who cares what things are called. They are all images and symbols anyway, and when we want one of them, our brain uses pictures even before we are able to create words.

Gheriani said...

AL you're approaching the unpredicttable in its predectable unpredectability.....

BeSHeSHeNtRa... said...

I felt really sad when I knew that the Al libiya fm closed and some other not interesting radio channel instead of it ..
Many people were enjoying listened to the al libiya fm in their car ..
And now back to the music tapes !!
Al libiya fm was a good channel , I know it was not like a super radio channel! , but it was a fresh voice that all Libyan misses to hear ..
but it's gone now ….
like any other good thing els !
و من ليبيا ياتى الجديد ..!!!

MaySoon said...

Yes every body is back to their tapes and CDs after they were resting in the gloves compartment. Allibiya Radio Channel now is BORING. I think the good thing about all this is that I have bought a CD for Fayrouz ;o) and actually enjoying it.. what they're doing is just ridiculous..
BTW Anglo speaking of Egypt-like shop signs, the other day I saw one here in Tripoli that says " تيك أوي" I forgot where it was, I will take a photo next time I see it..:o)
Breavheart thanks for the history piece of info.. I didn't know it :o)

AngloLibyan said...

thank you Safia for the extra information :o)

Gheriani this sounds exactly how I feel sometimes when I try to understand things in Libya.

Besheshentra, so the new radio channel is not the same? I did not know that but I suppose the long suffering people of Libya will just have to continue to suffer.

Maysoon, are you serious about the shop sign? that is just silly, we are now immitating other equally stupid arabs/middleeasterners

mani said...

salam guys

yeah Anglo Maysoon is right I saw that in some shops in seyaheya and gergaresh too. well, you know that the new 'burger king' and 'McDonald'esque shops (cant remember what theyre called now) in gargaresh are egyptian investments with the same cultural baggage so your gonna see that more and more I guess..

As for Leebeya FM, Im sure Itll come back in a new dress.. its too important to ditch and Im guessing that they are just testing the waters to see the affects of its absence on the population maybe, while they make some amendmants to its mandate and agenda.

Trabilsia said...

Lebeeya is back but with a diferent twist.
Even the programme announcers are gone......
was it the FM or the www. that caused the headache ??????
we've goten used to it now " when in Libya expect the unexpected "
ie excitement never ceases , so that one NEVER gets bored LOL.
Can I add that it was too good to be true?
OOOOOPPS ,Tajura here I come !!! (Me and my big mouth).
Anglo thanks for the article as always MASHAALLAH Alleck !

Lebeeya said...

Oh, the Radio channel has been named after me! How nice.

Since they are having major issues with FM, they should consider adding my initials instead.. Lebeeya MS

Libya always comes up with the weirdest things. I am not surprised one bit.

AngloLibyan said...

Trabilsia, my brother lives in Tajoura but I dont think its the same Tajoura you mentioned :o)
May Allah protect you.

Lebeeya MS, sounds really cool :o)

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didnt they say that we wherent allowed to call coke 'coke' but had to call it kawthur or something like that?

and something about sandwich?

theres a phrase that says 'only in america' but i would like to re-phrase it to 'only in libya'

AngloLibyan said...

yes whiteafrican, i think it was called Kawthur!

only in Libya, how true!!

Lebeeya said...

There is Kawther and there is Sa3ada (سعادة).

Then ofcourse there is bitter soda :P

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bitter soda has to be the best soft drink ever, only once I managed to find a simillar product in London, it was in an Italian shop, thank you Lebeeya.

lovelytripoli said...

i like it من ليبيا يأتي القطاف الزايد
loool old trbles word القطاف
i have NEWS
Libyan Fm stop working for maybe 2 weeks ,coues there re someone loves suida soooooo much.
also Libyan New Tv.
maybe they change them numbers or hide them..for showing..loool

Emm,من ليبيا يأتي كل مستحيل وغريب

so,enjoy your times.

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Wait ...Wait ... Wait , what the hell are you talking about..! this your mother tongue.
Arabic is the Language that more than 98% of Libyan speak. so if they trying to use an arabic words instead of using english this not ridiclous..! this who we are! MMMmmm waw! i bite my finger when i saw the Picture of Omar Almuktar on your Blog... Ask him send a message to why he died what was the reason... of course that is because of the next genaration " To BE LIBYA. LIBYA.not somthing eles. i disagree with alot of what is going on in My home but i believe on one thing that were not and well not be ridiclous. ever.

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